Dr. Kelly Brogan was a conventional psychiatrist for many years, and spent much of her career prescribing medications to help treat her patients’ conditions. Today, she’s a pioneer in the field of holistic psychiatry, and is one of the few known psychiatrists who takes a non-pharmaceutical approach to mental illness. How she made that transition is a fascinating story, as is her totally unique process for working with patients. In her interview with Adrienne, Dr. Kelly Brogan shared her personal wellness journey, as well as the eye-opening research that landed her at the forefront of the holistic psychiatry movement.
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The Personal Health Struggle That Sparked Change
As is the case with many “renegade doctors,” as she calls them, Dr. Brogan was an entirely conventional physician until a personal health issue led her to experience firsthand the limitations of what conventional medicine has to offer.
Up until that point, she was what’s called a reproductive psychiatrist, and specialized in prescribing psychiatric medications to pregnant and breastfeeding women. “That’s how much I believed in the pharmaceutical model,” she reflects.
But when she got pregnant herself, Dr. Brogan’s mindset shifted. During her pregnancy, childbirth experience, and postpartum window, she was seeing women just like her, and was still prescribing them psychiatric meds. “I began to sort of have this funny feeling that I don’t think I would want to take an antidepressant as a pregnant woman,” she remembers thinking. “That’s an inconvenient feeling.”
At that point, she wasn’t ready to come face-to-face with that feeling; she’d put so much time, money, and energy into the pharmaceutical model and the conventional approach to medicine. So she swept her discomfort under the rug.
But then another health experience shifted her outlook even further. After her child was born, she began to experience a panoply of symptoms: brain fog, memory issues, a flat mood, feelings of overwhelm, hair and skin issues. Initially, she chalked it all up to new motherhood. “We love to make excuses so we don’t actually have to address what our body is trying to tell us,” she says now, looking back.
Eventually, when she was nine months postpartum, Dr. Brogan was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis. It’s an exceedingly common autoimmune condition, especially in women and in particular postpartum women. After her diagnosis, she was prescribed various medications, and that inconvenient feeling — the discomfort over prescribing to pregnant and postpartum women — crept in again. She knew she didn’t want to take a prescription for the rest of her life, and could no longer stomach the hypocrisy of that.
“You live what your patients are going through,” Dr. Brogan says. “Until you experience that yourself, you don’t really have the motivation to question what you learned.”
But at that point, she had all the motivation she needed. That’s when her journey toward holistic psychiatry began.
Healing Naturally from Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis
After realizing that she didn’t want to take a prescription for her Hashimoto’s, Dr. Brogan found a naturopath in New York, Nicole Egenberger, who helped her change her diet and incorporate supplements. Dr. Brogan, as a science-minded, quantifiable-data person, tracked and monitored her progress by looking at the numbers. She began with antibodies in the high 2000s, and a TSH of 20, and watched as that resolved in the matter of one year. “I said, ‘well, wow,’” Dr. Brogan remembers.
The resounding success of this natural treatment made Dr. Brogan reflect on her medical training. Throughout her entire Ivy League education, she’d never been taught that diet matters. “The average medical student doesn’t have more than one hour of nutrition education,” she says. “It’s like, ‘By the way, if your patient’s drinking like a 32-ounce Pepsi every day, probably just tell them they shouldn’t do that.’ That’s literally the extent of it.”
Nor did she ever learn that autoimmune conditions like her own, and other chronic conditions, could be put into remission through lifestyle change. It was always all about the medications.
At this point, she became furious. She felt absolutely enraged at how much she’d invested and sacrificed to learn only part of the story of human health.
Finding A New Path with Holistic Psychiatry
In the years that followed, Dr. Brogan made it her mission to learn the rest of that story. She spent countless hours reading studies and primary papers on PubMed, unpacking everything that she’d assumed to be true.
She looked into all of the pharmaceuticals she’d thought were innocuous, that she’d assumed didn’t have a dark side, that she’d prescribed to patients for years: birth control, statins, antidepressants, antibiotics, acid blockers. “I went in and investigated it and what I found was really shocking at worst, and interesting at best,” she says.
But she didn’t just take this new information and get angry. What she learned through her extensive research became the foundation of a new way to practice medicine. It became the backbone of her holistic psychiatry practice.
Conventional Medicine Pushback Against Holistic Psychiatry
It didn’t surprise Dr. Brogan that she’s received a lot of pushback from the medical community for her non-pharmaceutical approach to psychiatry. In the world of conventional psychiatric medicine, there’s a clear line in the sand that all practitioners are meant to respect, a line that divides conditions that can be treated through holistic methods and lifestyle change from conditions that must be treated by pharmaceuticals. According to this belief, there are certain severe psychiatric conditions for which there’s nothing you can do, lifestyle-wise, to alleviate symptoms. They believe drugs are the only answer.
Many times throughout her career, Dr. Brogan witnessed the strength of this belief. She saw patients coming to doctors with suggestions or ideas of things they might do, lifestyle changes they might make, to help them get better. Again and again, the response she saw was along the lines of: “These are the hallowed walls of legitimate medicine, please take your concerns elsewhere.” Her mentor described this mentality as similar to a religion, and she agrees. There was no room for conversation or discussion, only accepted dogma.
Dr. Brogan approach of holistic psychiatry without pharmaceuticals for any psychiatric condition —no matter how severe — challenges this dogma. Still, the medical community remains firm that for some mental illness, only medication will work.
Dr. Brogan is on a mission to prove that this belief isn’t correct. She’s dedicated her career to showcasing and publishing cases in which lifestyle or diet changes have been able to treat severe mental illness. Her holistic psychiatry practice includes a team of 15 clinical volunteers devoted to publishing these cases: 5 have been published so far, and another is underway. Their goal is to put it in black and white that these severe mental illnesses are amenable to lifestyle changes, that powerful drugs aren’t the only answer — and may even be a damaging one.
An Incredible Story of Schizophrenia Cured by Holistic Psychiatry
One of the cases that Dr. Brogan and her team are publishing centers around a twenty-something man in Scotland with chronic schizophrenia. His condition had become extremely dire, and he was put on medications reserved for the severely ill — the kind of medications that often require repeated blood draws because they’re so toxic that they could induce a medical crisis. His quality of life had gotten so poor that his mom considered bringing him to Belgium for euthanasia. They were desperate, they’d tried everything.
As a last-ditch effort, they participated in an online program that Dr. Brogan offers, which basically replicates what she does in her clinical practice. Dr. Brogan emphasizes that they completed the program entirely on their own, that she never met them in person. Within two weeks, the young man had gone from completely nonfunctional to seeking employment.
Dr. Brogan tells WellBe that she has many cases like this, and that in most of them, typically the first thing she thinks is that it was a simple issue of a harmful reaction to a certain food item or environmental toxin, something like gluten enteropathy (aka celiac disease). In the case of the young man in Scotland, it was a brain allergy to a very specific kind of protein found in commonly processed foods. “That’s all it took,” Dr. Brogan marvels.
In the case of this particular patient, and many others, Dr. Brogan finds that she’s often the last stop, and she wishes she were more often the first one — especially because the fix can commonly be quite simple. People tend to only turn to holistic psychiatry when conventional medicine has failed them. As Dr. Brogan describes it: “People come to me when they’re headed to state hospital, when they’ve been on five meds for 25 years, when they have done electroconvulsive therapy, when nothing has worked and they’re cycling through psychosis and mania or they’re chronically suicidal, they’ve had multiple attempts.”
The Role of Emotions in Holistic Psychiatry
While many of Dr. Brogan’s patients, like the case described above, can be treated through dietary changes, emotions also play a large role in her approach. “The body doesn’t discriminate,” she explains. “So your psychological stress, your emotionally suppressed arenas, your deeper spiritual questions and your physical exposures — artificial foods and toxicant exposures and lack of sunlight, lack of movement — it all registers the same. The body doesn’t actually know.”
So whether it’s a psychosocial stress or a physical stressor, the body will read it the same way on a cytokine level (cytokines, in case you missed our primer on chronic inflammation, are the proteins that trigger an inflammatory response). But in conventional medicine, doctors view the mental and the physical as two entirely separate entities, which have virtually no impact on one another. As a holistic psychiatrist, Dr. Brogan acknowledges the intimate connection, and much of her practice involves doing detective work and methodical process of elimination to find the root cause, whether it’s emotional, psychological, social, environmental, or physical.
To do this, Dr. Brogan takes a logical triage approach. “I do think like Maslow’s hierarchy, where there’s an order of operations,” she says. First, she goes for the low-hanging fruit of the physical realm, usually beginning with diet. She looks to the most common culprits: gluten or dairy issues, too much caffeine, alcohol. If none of those do the trick, she moves to emotional work: relationships, mental and emotional baseline, needs that aren’t being met.
Dr. Brogan uses this same approach no matter the severity or type of mental illness: from psychosis right on down to slight depression. A fundamental tenet of this approach involves taking all her patients off of their medications — meds that, as she points out, will often induce chronically what people are looking to cure acutely — because until a person is off of these medications, you can’t begin the detective work of finding the root cause.
What A “Detox” Means in Holistic Psychiatry
Another central tenet of Dr. Brogan’s approach is the notion of a detox. She means this in a specific, holistic way — not a “oh I drank too much in December so I’m doing sober January” kind of detox.
As she describes it, her type of detox “is not necessarily a correction, it’s an alignment with an awareness of what the body wants and needs to thrive.” She drives home the point with an analogy: if a plant was kept in the corner with no sunlight, and watered with toilet water, nobody would be surprised if it withered and died. But when it comes to our own bodies, we don’t have the same awareness of how our environment and diet affect our health.
Brogan explains that we must learn to read our body’s language, that symptoms aren’t mistakes, but rather our bodies telling us something. She says that the hundreds of thousands of chemicals in our environment take their toll on us, and eventually, “the natural world and your physical body are going to gently, gently remind you. Tap on your shoulder until they start screaming.”
A detox, then, is one of her tools for helping people understand precisely what their body is screaming about. To Dr. Brogan, the detox is all about the synthetic compounds we’re exposed to: pre-chlorides from your dry cleaner, for instance — and, of course, medications. As she points out, you can’t patent a natural chemical, so every single prescription medication (which you can patent and therefore make quite a bit of money selling) is a chemical your body didn’t evolve to recognize.
One of Dr. Brogan’s detox tools is the coffee enema, a buzzy concept in the wellness space that tends to raise eyebrows. She was skeptical herself at first, but her mentor showed her a paper from the New England Journal of Medicine that opened her eyes: in the study, schizophrenic patients were hospitalized for two weeks, with no interventions except for coffee enemas daily, and were discharged symptom-free. Dr. Brogan then went on to produce her own study on the topic. The enema, as Dr. Brogan explains, is a method of relieving the liver of its burden to process toxins, and it’s doubly valuable because it’s self-administered.
Other detox practices that she recommends for helping your body to cope with environmental toxins include using a rebounder, dry brushing, saunas, and Ayurvedic practices. Detoxing is not about losing weight or punishing yourself for indulgence: it’s about, as Dr. Brogan puts it, “activating your own internal healing kit.”
The WellBe Takeaway: Kelly Brogan’s Vision for the Future of Holistic Psychiatry
After years of subscribing to the conventional approach to medicine and prescribing psychiatric medications to pregnant and breastfeeding women, Dr. Kelly Brogan had her own run-up against the health system’s limitations when she was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. This experience led her to dive deep into research that challenged all of her medical training, and everything she’d assumed to be true about treating psychiatric illness.
From this research, she built the foundation for her holistic psychiatry practice. Underling Dr. Brogan’s approach is the belief that medication is never the answer, and that any psychiatric condition — even the most severe — can be treated through lifestyle changes.
She knows that this rubs many in the medical community the wrong way, and she’s up against a lot of firmly held beliefs, but she has hope that through her research and results, the medical community will recognize that holistic psychiatry isn’t some fringe, woo-woo thing, but an effective approach that allows patients to move away from harmful and addictive medications.
If you’re looking for help determining what type of psychiatric care to get, or to find the right practitioner, schedule a call with Adrienne. You can work with her as your 1:1 holistic patient advocate to get you the care you need.
What do you think of Dr. Brogan’s approach to mental healthcare? Tell us in the comments below!
Watch our full interview with Dr. Kelly Brogan to hear the miraculous story of a woman who underwent electroconvulsive treatment for a bipolar diagnosis that turned out to just be gluten intolerance, the role subsidies play in conventional psychiatric treatment, the shocking/terrifying side effects of common psychiatric meds, and why she believes every adult should take one month to reflect on their life, their health, and their needs.
You can also listen to an audio version of our interview with Dr. Kelly Brogan on The WellBe Podcast.
The information contained in this article comes from our interview with Dr. Kelly Brogan, MD, a holistic psychiatrist. Her qualifications and training include psychiatric training and a fellowship at NYU Medical Center after graduating from Cornell University Medical College, and she has a B.S. from M.I.T. in Systems Neuroscience. She is also the author of several bestselling books. You can learn more about her here.
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Dr. Brogan almost killed me. Her non-belief in medication is “similar to a religion” for which there is “no room for conversation or discussion, only accepted dogma” (quote from above), exactly like the fanatics she accuses of only believing in medication.
Kudos to her for ‘curing’ (putting into remission) her auto-immune disease through diet and lifestyle; I did the same with mine through a reputable holistic doctor. But not all illnesses are created equally.
There are some people for whom medication can save their lives. I am one of them, and it is not one size fits all. I’ve had numerous depressions beginning when I was a young teenager, and have abnormally low levels of cortisol which were passed on to me in utero by my mother, who was a holocaust survivor at a very young age. She had ptsd, similarly low levels of cortisol and suffered extreme depression her whole life. The deck was stacked against me physically from birth.
I believed her when she said I could taper off. I had a young child and was very close to walking in front of a bus and she did not listen. I didn’t know this at the time -I was extremely depressed- but friends and my husband tried to intervene, tried to speak with her, begged her for help. She was dismissive, irritated that her dogma didn’t work and admonishing of me for not “believing” enough. Thankfully I went to another doctor who also tapers patients, and after an extensive intake, she informed me she would never attempt to taper anyone with my medical history.
Kelly Brogan attributed my inability to get well to a lack of salt, lack of belief, and my husband’s concern to the patriarchy trying to control me.
She’s dangerous, a covid denier to boot, and is being investigated. She’s not licensed or credentialed; apparently the organization she claims to be credentialed by for holistic psychiatry shut down in 2014! Even Goop scrubbed her off their website (which says a lot) but she still has THEM on hers. My next email is to GOOP to let them know.
check out http://medika.life/kelly-brogan-on-medikas-quack-scale/
We completely understand and appreciate you letting us know what happened to you. What you have gone through is truly horrible and Adrienne agrees that there are certain times medication is very much needed for mental health crises, Adrienne’s mother went through something similar before her suicide. We don’t however believe in cancel culture without a verdict, so we will remove her from the site when her medical license has been taken away or the investigation against her is complete and she is found guilty of misconduct. Thanks xx Team WellBe